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jianghaiyang · 2021年04月05日

请问这种策略中的credit risk 与前面提到的credit issues 有什么不同?

NO.PZ2019122802000016

问题如下:

Yankel Stein is the chief investment officer of a large charitable foundation based in the United States. Although the foundation has significant exposure to alternative investments and hedge funds, Stein proposes to increase the foundation’s exposure to relative value hedge fund strategies. As part of Stein’s due diligence on a hedge fund engaging in convertible bond arbitrage, Stein asks his investment analyst to summarize different risks associated with the strategy.

Describe how Extreme market volatility can create concerns for Stein’s proposed hedge fund strategy.

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解释:

Convertible arbitrage strategies have performed best when convertible issuance is high (implying a wider choice among convertible securities as well as downward price pressure and cheaper prices), general market volatility levels are moderate, and the liquidity to trade and adjust positions is sufficient. Extreme market volatility typically implies heightened credit risks. Convertibles are naturally less-liquid securities, so convertible managers generally do not fare well during such periods. Because hedge funds have become the natural market makers for convertibles and typically face significant redemption pressures from investors during crises, the strategy may have further unattractive left-tail risk attributes during periods of market stress.

请老师解释一下好吗?

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伯恩_品职助教 · 2021年11月01日

嗨,爱思考的PZer你好:


这里没理解 这个策略是long CB+short stock ,那么 如果可转债跌 stock跌但是stock是short的,这时候还是可以赚钱的不是吗——是的,因为股票跌得会更多,毕竟CB还是一个债

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伯恩_品职助教 · 2021年10月11日

嗨,努力学习的PZer你好:


请问老师为什么“stock也是没有跌反而涨了”——只是有这种可能性,不是说一定,市场上有时候你根据指标判断就是应该跌,但是结果涨了找谁能说理是吧。去年的那个美国散户吃机构事件,机构分析那个游戏股因为营收不景气,市场占有度急剧下降,因此做空,散户不干,使劲买,把做空的机构给打“哭”了。这有什么理由对吧?市场涨跌如果都有理由支撑的话,那股神就不是只有巴菲特一人,所以这个不是纠结点。这样理解了吗?

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伯恩_品职助教 · 2021年04月11日

嗨,爱思考的PZer你好:


加油

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伯恩_品职助教 · 2021年04月10日

嗨,爱思考的PZer你好:


同学你好,这里一定是同步我们才能利用CB的凸性套利。先解释一下这个是怎么套利的,实际从我们手中拿的投资品来看,long了一个可转债,short了一个股票,那我们怎么能赚钱呢?第一:被低估的σ回到正常水平,call option涨价,CB涨价;此时short的stock有可能亏损,但是由于CB的convexity特性,一定是CB涨的多,stock涨的少(short的stock的亏损<long CB的盈利)然后卖出CB的同时买入stock平仓,盈利。所以这里之所以有了债券的凸性,才会有轧差之后的盈利。如果变化不同步,那么就无法利用其同涨同跌时,由于凸性涨多跌少套利了。再打个比方,如果变化不同,股票涨了,CB跌,岂不是long了一个跌的,short了一个涨的,亏大了。这样理解了吗?

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jianghaiyang · 2021年04月11日

理解了,谢谢老师

伯恩_品职助教 · 2021年04月06日

嗨,从没放弃的小努力你好:


同学你好,credit issue是指仅仅因为credit spread变化(变大或者变小),导致和stock变化不同步,就有可能导致低估convertible bond没有涨反而跌了,stock也是没有跌反而涨了。

而在crises期间,credit risk会上升,可转债和股票都会跌,导致客户看净值亏损,会赎回,落袋为安,那么在这个时候就基金经理就被迫在亏损的价格上卖出导致损失成为现实,而不是继续等待消除spread套利赚差价。(left risk)。

其实一看都是亏损,但是引起的原因不太一样。特别是 Extreme market volatility是系统性风险,而credit issue非系统性风险。

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jianghaiyang · 2021年04月10日

谢谢老师,那credit issues是非系统性风险,导致convertible bond中的credit spread变大或变小,导致与stock price 变化不同步,这样会带来什么风险和后果呢?

Mlj · 2021年10月10日

请问老师为什么“stock也是没有跌反而涨了”

Yaq7 · 2021年11月01日

这里没理解 这个策略是long CB+short stock ,那么 如果可转债跌 stock跌但是stock是short的,这时候还是可以赚钱的不是吗

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