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一只可爱的猪 · 2020年03月03日

问一道题:NO.PZ2018053101000018

问题如下:

Ash Lawn Partners, a fund of hedge funds, has the following fee structure:

 2/20 underlying fund fees with incentive fees calculated independently

 Ash Lawn fees are calculated net of all underlying fund fees

 1% management fee (based on year-end market value)

 10% incentive fee calculated net of management fee

 The fund and all underlying funds have no hurdle rate or high-water mark fee conditions

In the latest year, Ash Lawn’s fund value increased from $100 million to $133 million before deduction of management and incentive fees of the fund or underlying funds. Based on the information provided, the total fee earned by all funds in the aggregate is closest to:

选项:

A.

$11.85 million.

B.

$12.75 million.

C.

$12.87 million.

解释:

B is correct.

Total fees paid to all funds (underlying funds and Ash Lawn) are $12.75 million, consisting of underlying fund fees of $9.26 million and Ash Lawn fees of $3.49 million, calculated as follows:

Underlying fund fees:

Management fee = $133 million × 0.02 = $2.66 million.

Incentive fee = ($133  $100) million × 0.20 = $6.60 million.

Total underlying fund fees ($2.66 + $6.60) million = $9.26 million.

Ash Lawn fees:

AUM at end of year, net of underlying fund fees = $133 million  $9.26 million = $123.74 million.

Ash Lawn management fee = $123.74 million × 0.01 = $1.24 million (rounded).

AUM net of underlying fund fees and Ash Lawn management fee = ($123.74  $1.24) million = $122.50 million(rounded).

Ash Lawn incentive fee = ($122.50  $100) million × 0.10 = $2.25 million (rounded).

Total Ash Lawn fees = ($1.24 + $2.25) million = $3.49 million (rounded).

Total fees of underlying funds and Ash Lawn:

($9.26 + $3.49) million = $12.75 million (rounded).

计算FoF总费用就要分别计算两层基金的费用:

底层基金管理费=年底AUM*对应管理费率=$133 million × 0.02 = $2.66 million

绩效奖是单独计算的,因此直接在年底AUM基础上计算绩效奖=($133  $100) million × 0.20 = $6.60 million

所以底层总的费用=($2.66 + $6.60) million = $9.26 million。

对于母基金来说,扣除完底层总费用后的年底AUM净值=$133 million  $9.26 million = $123.74 million

所以母基金管理费=$123.74 million × 0.01 = $1.24 million

母基金的绩效奖是按扣除完管理费净额计算=($123.74 $1.24 - $100) *0.1=2.25million

所以母基金总费用=($1.24 + $2.25) million = $3.49 million

所以两层基金的总费用=($9.26 + $3.49) million = $12.75 million

看了前面韩韩老师的解答,没能看懂。可否换一个老师,更加清晰的解答以下,下面的问题:

为什么在底层基金和母基金计算绩效奖时,一个是扣除管理费后,一个是不用?题目中并无明确暗示。

对于底层基金:绩效奖是单独计算的,因此直接在年底AUM基础上计算绩效奖=($133 –  $100) million × 0.20 = $6.60 million

对于母基金:母基金的绩效奖是按扣除完管理费净额计算=($123.74 – $1.24 - $100) *0.1=2.25million


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xiaowan_品职助教 · 2020年03月05日

同学你好,这道题首先说的是底层基金,费率结构是2/20,管理费2%,绩效奖20%,没有说net of management fee,那么就默认为底层基金征收绩效奖的方式是按照不扣管理费的AUM来计算的。

 然后,这句话10% incentive fee calculated net of management fee,是针对母基金来说的,特别指出了 net of management fee,所以母基金的绩效奖计算是按照先扣管理费,再计算绩效奖励的方式。

同学可以着重关注一下题目中是否有明确说net of management fee,如果对于征收管理费的方式没有明确说明,我们都默认为用不扣管理费的AUM来计算绩效。如果题目中明确说明net (扣管理费后算绩效)or independent(不扣管理费算绩效),就按照题目要求来计算。

xiaowan_品职助教 · 2020年03月03日

嗨,努力学习的PZer你好:


Ash Lawn Partners, a fund of hedge funds  ——> 说明是一个FOF,Ash Lawn是母基金

2/20 underlying fund fees with incentive fees calculated independently ——>底层基金按2/20单独计算管理费和绩效奖

Ash Lawn fees are calculated net of all underlying fund fees ——>母基金费用要在扣除底层费用后计算


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一只可爱的猪 · 2020年03月05日

这个我是明白的,我的问题是:对于底层基金:绩效奖是单独计算的,因此直接在年底AUM基础上计算绩效奖=($133 – $100) million × 0.20 = $6.60 million?题目中哪里写了?

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老师您好,为什么是incentive fee是($133 –  $100) million × 0.20 = $6.60 million,题目不是说要net of management fee么?为什么没有扣除management fee 部分呢?

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