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七七 · 2024年08月08日

养老金资产和负债的要求折现率

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问题如下:

How should Miller most likely respond to Browne’s question about Tucker’s anticipated pension surplus asset?

选项:

A.The value of the surplus is likely overstated. B.US accounting rules do not permit a sponsor to claim a pension surplus on the balance sheet. C.There do not appear to be any problems with the value or anticipated accounting treatment of the surplus.

解释:

Solution

A is correct. The pension plan is incorrectly using a discount rate based on the returns to its current asset allocation, which includes small-cap equity, private equity, and illiquid real estate investments. These returns are historically much higher than the returns to high-grade bond yields averaged over the last 25 years, which is the maximum discount rate permitted in the United States. Therefore, the value of liabilities is being calculated with a higher-than-allowed discount rate and has likely been understated. This means the value of the surplus is likely overstated.

B is incorrect. US GAAP not only permits but requires firms to report the value of the overfunded or underfunded pension plan on the balance sheet as an asset or a liability, respectively.

C is incorrect. The value of the surplus is likely overstated because the discount rate being used to calculate the value of plan liabilities is too high.

请老师,再明确一下养老金的liability和asset的折现率相关规定和知识点。从这道题看,asset的折现率最高不能超过 returns to high-grade bond yields averaged over the last 25 years。那么养老金负债的折现率呢?看题目后面说,本题用的是最近15年的资产端投资收益率。

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lynn_品职助教 · 2024年08月10日

嗨,努力学习的PZer你好:


没有这种约定,我明白同学的疑问,上面的回答都是基于这个结论在解释,


资产的折现率那个是美国的法律或者说规定,协会是不能不在题干中体现的,因为CFA是全球的考试,这道题目是因为原版书教材是美国的一些持证者写的,包括mock也是波士顿协会来出题目,但是正式考试这类“常识”都要在题干中告诉我们。

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lynn_品职助教 · 2024年08月08日

嗨,努力学习的PZer你好:


这个是一个比较复杂的问题,首先是看题干给的条件,比如这道题,其次,关于机构IPS中,养老金资产Required return的考点可能有:


1. 在Fully Funded的情况下,绝大多数情况,养老金资产的Required Return等于负债的折现率。


2. 企业可以自己为养老金资产设定一个Required Return,比如题目中养老金负债的折现率是10%,公司设定资产的Required Return是12%,这也是可以的,如果题目出现这种说法也是可以的。


3. 如果题目明确地说需要一个2%的Excess return,那么养老金资产的RR就是负债的折现率 + 2%


4. 如果养老金状态是Under-Funded,即资产现值小于负债现值,企业面临两难的问题,第一个就是这种情况下,企业想要资产的收益率大于负债的折现率,即资产的增速快点,这样可以尽可能实现资产负债相等,但养老金在Underfunded的情况下,养老金资产无法承受一个更高的要求回报率,因为其风险承受能力较低,所以如果题目是文字描述企业想要一个Excess return,这种情况下养老金资产是无法满足的。养老金资产无法满足这个Excess return的要求。

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